This death could have been any number of my friends in that neighborhood. oh, shit. I hope it's not. My sympathies to her family and friends. (from seattle).
people who actually do that sort of thing astound me. I'm very anti-capital punishment, and yet things like that, where people show such an obvious and deliberate disregard for other human life, and are presumably not mentally ill - I'm left to wonder what part in a healthy society they're meant to play.
i don't have the impulse to want the driver dead -- but I do want the driver to be exposed to the suffering of the victim's family and friends, and to have to make amends.
I'm much more interested in restitution than in punishment.
Well, no neither do I - my point really was I didn't see how rehabilitating that sort of attitude is plausible. Thing is, I don't think restitution of that regard is at all plausible, either. How could someone figure out what her life would have been worth had sh not been killed?
I think that the killer should have to be there with the family and friends as they grieve, and see what they've done, and do what they can to make things better.
Well, yeah. Even if the law could force them to be there and see what they've done, one of the few things that they could've done to make it better - STOPPED and called for help, they already passed up. I guess for me it's not necessarily the accident that upsets me so much - I guess I can allow for that to have been one of those truly unfortunate blameless accidents, but at the point where they ran away without helping - that makes it absolutely blamed then, at least for me. I don't think we can make people see the arses they are, no matter how much we might wish we could.
There is nothing they can do to make it better. Not doing it in the first place was the only thing. And it's too late for that. Karma will take care of it for him or her. I believe that.
That's really awful. Somehow hearing about things like this is worse when it's close to home... My sympathies, as well, to her loved ones, and I hope they catch the driver.
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Date: 2005-11-11 08:34 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-11-11 08:48 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-11-11 09:35 pm (UTC)I'm much more interested in restitution than in punishment.
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Date: 2005-11-11 10:10 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-11-11 10:17 pm (UTC)I think that the killer should have to be there with the family and friends as they grieve, and see what they've done, and do what they can to make things better.
I have no illusions that it will happen.
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Date: 2005-11-11 10:21 pm (UTC)I have no illusions that it will happen.
Well, yeah. Even if the law could force them to be there and see what they've done, one of the few things that they could've done to make it better - STOPPED and called for help, they already passed up. I guess for me it's not necessarily the accident that upsets me so much - I guess I can allow for that to have been one of those truly unfortunate blameless accidents, but at the point where they ran away without helping - that makes it absolutely blamed then, at least for me. I don't think we can make people see the arses they are, no matter how much we might wish we could.
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Date: 2005-11-12 01:37 am (UTC)Not doing it in the first place was the only thing.
And it's too late for that.
Karma will take care of it for him or her. I believe that.
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Date: 2005-11-11 09:50 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-11-11 10:42 pm (UTC)Update is that the driver turned himself in about an hour ago.
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Date: 2005-11-11 10:50 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-11-11 10:53 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-11-12 01:38 am (UTC)