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things that make me crazy today:
  • inconsistent choices between zero-based and one-based numbering schemes
  • obscure error messages
  • putting lots of source into header files
  • header file names do not match class names
  • source control that consists of renaming the file in the same directory. and leaving it there with the binary ("hmm -- which code do you think he used to build this? was it newfeatures.h or features.h or experimental-features.h?")
I feel like the inverse of the cranky old man. I am sitting in my rocking chair ergo desk chair, and saying "back in my day" "these days," I mutter, "we have tools for this sort of thing. And we don't keep it all straight in our heads. I don't care if 'disk crash' was a literal term when you were starting -- putting all the vowels in the variable name doesn't cost extra any more."

Date: 2005-06-08 12:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bwb-archive.livejournal.com
Wouldn't the inverse of a "cranky old man" be a "happy young woman"?

I always did like you in fishnets. rrrrow!

Date: 2005-06-08 12:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trochee.livejournal.com
i know you love the fishnets, but are you sure those girls wearing fishnets are happy?

While we're on the subject of opposites, perhaps the right opposite is a happy-young-female-nonhuman.

Date: 2005-06-08 12:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bwb-archive.livejournal.com
Ah ha! You admitted you are a happy young female nonhuman! I KNEW it!

Do not worry. You could not escape from my highly evolved and complicated trap, meant to LURRRRRE you into revealing the truth.

.... now put on those stockings, my liebkuchen.

Date: 2005-06-08 01:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trochee.livejournal.com
a liebkuchen are indeed nonhuman. and happy. and they're better young. Not sure about female, though.

Date: 2005-06-09 10:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boobirdsfly.livejournal.com
ha. Just went back and read this thread...
you boys crack me up. and it's hard to do that today...
as to the fishnets , i am with dkg ... it's all about the outlook.

I wear fishnets sometimes and I am not unhappy.;)

Date: 2005-06-08 07:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_dkg_/
i would submit that not only are some of those fishnet wearers unhappy, but some of them (especially the tattered, ripped, goth-y fishnet-wearers) are deliberately, consciously unhappy as a lifestyle choice. depending on your view of the world, unhappiness is sometimes the only reasonable response.

Date: 2005-06-08 07:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trochee.livejournal.com
deliberately, consciously unhappy as a lifestyle choice
or they just shop at Hot Topic.

zero-based!

Date: 2005-06-08 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_dkg_/
it's easy to resolve conflicts between one-based and zero-based indexing:

  • the one-based indexing is wrong and should be destroyed!


calling some versions "new" is one of my pet peeves, actually. it might be new when you wrote it, but pretty soon (if you keep developing the tools) it's not anymore. and worse, there will be something else which comes along that's even newer. There's a reason we use numbers for versioning!

it reminds me of the art world: modern isn't anymore, postmodern is actually pre-contemporary, and good luck picking a new term when the current crop of 'contemporary' work becomes dated... (and i've probably used all of these terms precisely wrong because i am clueless, so hopefully someone will come along and clear it up for me for good).

at least feminism has the decency to have numbered Waves (unlike music).

Re: zero-based!

Date: 2005-06-08 05:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trochee.livejournal.com
at least feminism has the decency to have numbered Waves (unlike music).
I'd never considered this. Yet Another Good Thing about feminism.

I agree with your feeling about the one-based indexing, but line numbers make sense in some applications. Now, if you could convince all the GNU textutils to start numbering lines at zero (e.g. head -0 gets you one line, and emacs reports line numbers starting with zero) then I'm on board.

Until then, we cope.

Re: zero-based!

Date: 2005-06-08 07:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_dkg_/
actually, to my mind, current behavior of head is right.

head -1 should return 1 line, not 2. one way to read it is: return all the lines before line number N. But an even better way to read it is return 1 line, starting at the beginning of the file. The way you shouldn't read it is return me line number 1 because that's just wrong.

emacs line numbering and grep -n output do both seem wrong to me, though i can't imagine it changing, ever. which is too bad.

You're

Date: 2005-07-07 06:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ikaev.livejournal.com
absolutley right in all points I feel the same

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