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seems to me that the goal of computational linguistics should not really be trying to encode what we know about language into computers.

the goal should be encoding how we learn about language. We [linguists] have a terribly unclear picture of what it means to have a good theory -- we talk and talk about minimality, elegance and Ockham's Razor, but have lousy metrics for quantifying the quality of a theory.

My department is choosing among several candidates for a new computational linguistics position.

porter spent his entire talk explaining how he mapped multiple databases onto the same format. There were no linguistics results, and the mapping wasn't automatic. I wasn't even convinced that he had read his slides before presenting them, either.

haze spent his entire talk using interesting methods on an interesting (if simple) problem. But he showed no interest in exploring why his methods worked -- a few directed questions from the engineers in the audience revealed that he had no interest in the methods, not even well enough to understand them. Any member of my lab would be better qualified, even those of us who are pre-Master's.

glass spent her talk exploring a technique that tries to learn how linguists analyze data, using some mocked-up linguistics results. I wasn't convinced by the utility of the problem she was trying to solve, but she followed the approach I believe in:
linguists seem to know a good solution when they see it. But they can't pin down how it's measured. Therefore let us use a number of exemplars of good (and bad) solutions and try to infer the metric for "good solution".
This solution matches what I want.

Unfortunately, I think that the faculty will hire porter. This is not helping my mood today.

Date: 2005-03-28 11:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boobirdsfly.livejournal.com
Makes sense to me what you're saying. Grrr to them not getting it !

Date: 2005-03-29 02:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evan.livejournal.com
porter as in martin porter?

Date: 2005-03-29 02:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trochee.livejournal.com
uh, no these are all made-up names to protect the guilty [hence the boldface, or at least that was what I was tryin' to get at]. If you wanna know who it was, ask me offline.

Date: 2005-03-29 02:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trochee.livejournal.com
and fwiw I chose "porter" because it seemed like "one who carries heavy things" and "something or someone that ports one system to another" are good general vibes for this guy. Stout, sturdy, not always interesting.

heuristic metalinguistics

Date: 2005-04-01 04:34 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Just saw these posts on a search for info on metalinguistics as I'm researching material on article I'm writing on heuristic metalinguistics and the field seems VERY dry. My background? Started as a programmer in 1960 (Univac II) and just retired as the chap in charge of the Information Management Branch for the RCMP (federal police up here in Canada).

Does anyone know of good references on this subject, on-line or off? You can eMail me at kcoulter@magma.ca and thanks in advance if'n you do.

Mr. Kerry Coulter, Ottawa, Canada

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